Crucifixion was a Roman practice, and therefore the cross would have never become the symbol of Christianity. Without the safe unifying network from Italy, Greece and Palestine to pass ideas the faith wouldn't spread so quickly.
And without Roman adoption, the faith wouldn't be legitimized in an entire Empire. Therefore if Rome lost to Carthage, Christianity would never converted Europeans. The most probable scenario would see Jesus Christ born and living in the Parthian Empire.
Thus St Paul wanting to spread Christianity wouldn't have taking the Roman route, instead Christianity would spread throughout the Middle East and some parts of Persia. Christianity would most likely remain a small religion with little effect in history. An alternative storyline would see Paul going to Carthage, and Carthage becoming the center of Christianity, and still be spread to Europe via Spain.
But given that the Romans actually legitimized Christianity to unify the empire under one faith for political and strategical reasons, the same wouldn't be replicated in Carthage, since its power is derived from doing business rather than imposing its ideology upon others.
Given that Islam is derived from Christianity and Judaism, and that Mohammed's ideas were inspired by Bahira Sergius the Monk - originally a Christian monk before being considered heretical - the Islam would have never come into existence if Christianity didn't exist or spread through the Parthian Empire.
However if Christianity and Islam came into existence, Arab troops would still take the middle east, then march into both Europe and Africa. In Africa, they would reach as far as Morocco, as they would clash with Carthaginians forces. Western North Africa would remain Carthaginian, whereas the eastern part would fall under the Arabs. Therefore, the Arabs would never be able to conquer Spain as it would be a Carthaginian fortified stronghold. Wars between Carthage and the Arabs would last for some time.
The outcome of the clash will depend on how much Greece and these nations have fortified themselves since the beginning of this timeline. Islam spreading through Southern Europe wouldn't be a surprise, but it's hard to imagine it going North as the temperate forests and Islam don't really mix well.
In these regions, the pork is important part of people's diet and they rely on alcohol to keep them warm in the winters, and Islam has forbidden both pork and alcohol. The Carthaginians are sailors by nature. This Phoenician culture has been running in their blood for hundreds of years, long before the foundation of Carthage in c. Unlike the Roman desire for land, Carthaginians yearned for the vast and endless sea.
The Carthaginians were the best sailors and had the best ships in their times. It wouldn't take them long before they set sail into the Atlantic Ocean and discover the new land of the Americas.
The Carthaginians would meet the Mayan civilization in its peak, before the birth of the Aztecs and Incas. The meeting of the two worlds would be much less brutal than how it was with the Spaniards. Again Carthage would seek to make colonies and establish trade markets in the new world rather than make military conquests.
America's history would take a turn that I can't even predict Without the Roman Empire, Latin language would probably remain in Rome and its Italian surrounding without expanding into Western Europe. With Carthage the dominant empire, Spain would be speaking Phoenician, the surrounding of Iberia would be influenced by the Phoenician language.
The current French and Spanish language wouldn't come into existence, and the English would be different. The Americas would surely be influenced by the more advance Carthaginian language. At that time, the Maya script, also known as Maya glyphs, was the writing system of the Maya civilization. Therefore the Phoenician alphabet soon would be adopted in the new world, and probably would be altered to fit the American civilizations, the same way has ancient Greece derived their letters from the Phoenician alphabet.
The circumstances that led to the European renaissance would soon arise in Carthage. The difference is that Carthage wouldn't go through the dark ages Europe endured, as it was already a more liberated society.
Therefore the renaissance would take place earlier than it did in our actual timeline. It is true that the Carthaginians were religious people, but their aristocracy was purely based on wealth. Enterprising individuals, able to exploit the market conditions and to fund their own private trading expeditions, could rise to the very top of society and politics.
Indeed, this was a criticism of Aristotle when commentating on Carthage — that such a preoccupation with wealth would lead inevitably to a self-interested oligarchy dominating society. This freedom that the Carthaginians enjoy, their contact with various civilizations from around the globe, their notable discovery of the new world and the unimaginable prosperity and wealth they would reach, would give birth to a Carthaginian renaissance in Carthage, and probably in other Carthaginian cities.
North Africa would replace Europe as the center of modernity in the world. I'm Mario, the founder of Mind Revolt, an intellectual blog that treats different topics using logic and rational analysis. I am a multi-passionate person having interest in various area such as history, philosophy, business, science If you want to write a guest post or request a topic, get in touch! What if Attila hadn't died in AD?
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Related Articles. Install the app. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. What if the Romans had lost the First Punic War? Thread starter Romanus Start date Nov 15, See title for my question. The Romans were forced to sign a treaty similar to the One that Hannibal's father had to sign. I don't know how this could happen, maybe a consul being trapped and forced to sign a peace treaty.
What would Hannibal do or be like? Would the Romans rebound and learn from their defeat, maybe work on investing in heavy cavalry or a professional army early. Romanus said:. Click to expand
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